this hour. we're going to look at the latest response of the white house to the rapid developments in ukraine. and are women the key for a democratic sweep in 2014? >> we are now deeply concerned of reports of military movements taken by the russian federation. >> what is russia up to here? >> the united states will stand with the international community in affirming there will be costs for any military intervention in ukraine? >> it's an outrage women can still make 77 cents for every dollar a man earns. >> there's got to be some down side on having a woman president. something. something that may not fit with that office. >> this isn't 1954. it's 2014. a woman deserves equal pay for equal work. in some states they're so far in the past, they're even pushing

laws to legalize segregation based on sexual orientation. >> this is how fundamental freedoms of trampled. >> freedom of speech, and religious expression. >> we've let some team define freedom for too long. >> the russian flag flies over crimea today as vladimir putin weighs further intervention in ukraine. tanks are on the streets in crimea's two major cities while masked men surround the airports. back here in the u.s., the response to russia's actions is ramping up. the u.n. security council is

holding an emergency meeting on ukraine. in washington, security officials, including the secretary of defense, were seen leaving the white house earlier this afternoon. joining me to catch us up is nbc news correspondent kristen welker. >> reporter: thanks for having me. there were high-level meeting at the white house. the national security team met here at the white house to discuss possible policy steps at that they may take in the future. president obama was not at that meeting i am told, but he was briefed by his national security adviser susan rice, as well as the rest of his national security team. as you pointed out, karen, we saw defense secretary chuck hagel leaving the wours early and dni chief james clapper as well as other officials.

this comes on a very stern warning yesterday. he said to russia if they were to take military steps in ukraine, that there would be costs associated with that. so the big question is what will those costs be? what are they considering? one white house official telling nbc news that those costs could include a possible boycott of the g-8 summit. that is slated to happen in sochi, russia, the very same place where the olympics were held in june. >> presumably i'm assuming the white house is weighing those options given there may be action at the u.n. security council or they think that's doubtful, but as they also keep app eye an eye on what is happening in the ukraine and essentially what putin does next. >> reporter: they are weighing their options very carefully, you're absolutely right. the question is will there be more that they're putting on the table in addition to the potential boycott of the g-8 summit. i can tell you they are getting

pressure from some of the more hawkish members of congress, not surprisingly, to take a more robust stance. john mccain said there's a range of serious options at our disposal without the use of military force. i call on the president to rally our european and nato allies to make clear what costs russia will face for its aggression and to impose those consequences without further delay. so not calling for military force at this point in time, karen, but certainly calling for tougher rhetoric and potentially for tougher consequences. >> how surprising we would hear that from conservatives. kristen welker, thanks so much. >> let's bring in steve clemmons, editor at large for the "atlantic" and heather conley. thanks to you both. steve, it strikes me that i would expect that folks are probably at the white house and the state department and the defense department for that

matter working the phones, trying to see what kind of support there could be for measures like a boycott of the g-8 or kind of investigating what their options would be. >> well, i think various cabinet secretaries like john kerry and chuck hagel have been working the phones on both sides, with putin, leaders in ukraine, ange angela merkel. the president has communicate to putin we can't afford a retriggering of cold war lines, that ukraine should not be forced to choose between moscow on one side and europe of the both. chuck hagel had a talk today with the russian defense minister, a very, very tough

talk and officials said it was conveyed in our eyes russia invaded ukraine today and then asked for permission later from the russian parliament. >> sure. heather, to that point, though, what options does president obama really have? we're talking about things like potential sanctions, like boycotting the g-8. but what leverage does the united states really have with russia at this point? >> we have some but it's limited. the political consequences, which we are talking about boycotting the g-8 and perhaps making it the g-7 and disinviting russia. they no longer really bronx in that group. you would see targeted economic sanctions, freezing of assets, putting a lot of economic pressure on the russian government. we know british foreign secretary william hague will be going to kiev and meeting in an emergency session on monday. we must keep a unified

transatlantic front and put an enormous amount of pressure in is the second time in six years that the russian federation has violated the territorial integrity of two countries on nato's borders. we simply do have to send a very strong message, both transatlantically and individually that this cannot stand. >> steve, here's the thing that strikes me in the relationship between putin and president obama. i don't know that i think it's personal because i think putin is just he's former kgb, he has a goal what he wants, but we saw the relationship, it's basically escalated in terms of disintegrating. we had human rights issues, they put a freeze on adoptions and then we had edward snowden. it's snowballed from there. how much is the rocky relationship between president obama and putin limit what our options are? >> i think their personal

relationship matters at the edge but not dramatically more. what you've laid out is more important, we've had a lot of tit for tat escalations that are almost silly but become significant at a certain point. what's very clear is russia looks like to russians as the ronald reagan of russia. it morning in moscow. he's ascended. i agree with everything that heather said but the biggest leverage we have is to show those people in the leadership of russia that they're endangering the renewal and revival of russia as a normal great nation, which they really want to have and they are embracing thugs in the world and they're engaged in the black art of state craft again, something many russians don't want. i think that's what we need to show them and show them that they're really running close to that line. >> if we think about what putin's end game is here, ukraine is part of a euroasian

union. it strikes me he's not interested and doesn't care of being part of the european union or the broader coalition of nations. he's got his own goals. >> you're absolutely right. president putin has put forward this narrative for several years, it's bringing together the former soviet states, some more willing than others, binding them together by economic measures and security measures. and ukraine, why ukraine has become so powerful, this is really the origins of the russian culture, russian society. and this euroasian union really cannot exist. this is why we're in such a dangerous situation and why you're seeing these troop movements. we've seen some instability in the east of ukraine in harkiv,

beyond crimea. we could see where ukrainian forces begin to meet russian forces and a final destabilization specific. >> if we get to the point of where we see clashes between ukrainian and russian forces, that would amp the pressure to take action, wouldn't it? >> i think then there would be movement in terms of nato posturing and positions but you still have a long way to escalate through different plateaus before you hit a broader conflict. i think what that means given the fact that geographically we're not going to be able to do much there in my view, that fundamentally over the long run, we're looking at a very different global relationship with russia and we need to have a different strategy for dealing and confronting with russia's

aspirations. that will field like a cold war light and it will be very costly to the united states and to the west and a lost opportunity for the world but that may be where we're heading. >> is there a possibility, kind of gaming this out a bit, that we could up end up with putin being satisfied with crimea and parts of eastern ukraine and keep the western parts of ukraine sort of whole, if you will? >> well, i mean, the danger of that is then you have again the ethnic disintegration and redefining of lines within a country. you could sort of put that back to russia. russia has a lot of parts of its territory that are governed and have majority ethnic area there. strobe talbott said the explosion of ethnic identity in the world is one of the troubling issues because these lines don't follow along the line that states are. if russia tries to take that role, breaking off republicans

and dividing nations up, it gives an open path to lots of countries in the world beginning to do the same thing and then we'll see the echo effects and a real problem for the united states and its allies. >> thank you steve and heather. we'll obviously keep an eye on these developments. >> coming up, it's all about the women. just who has the winning strategy for 2014? and later, sacrifice zones. how low-income americans are left living in unhealthy and unsafe environments all because they don't have the money or the connections to fight back. okay, listen up! i'm re-workin' the menu.

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at a time when women make up half of hour workforce, it's an outrage that women can still make 77 cents for every dollar a man earns. this isn't 1954. it's 2014. a woman deserves equal pay for equal work. >> that was president obama laying out the message for 2014 at the dnc last night and it is all about women. democrats are making a big play to bring women to the polls next fall and that includes successfully recruiting a record number of female candidates, according to emlilemily's list. on the republican side, though, not so much. the number of gop women running for congress is actually down a third from the last cycle. oh, well. and it's no wonder with the grand old party doubling down on language like uncle sugar and

patronage language to roll back women's rights. they moved right on to attacking abortion care. as the democrats are well aware, women voters could decide the election in 2014. joining me now to discuss is jane newton-small, the author of the piece i mentioned in the observing and margie o'meara, a democratic candidate. margie, you wrote about project grow. tell bus that. >> the republicans started in june this project that would essentially help primary candidates, women running in primaries to sort of get through their primaries because one of the biggest challenges for republican women is getting through the primaries. it takes almost more than half of those candidates out every cycle. they need a little bit more

extra help than the men. but they also were recruiting and they've actually man paged recruit one third last cycle when they had no help whatsoever. >> there a number of polls that suggest women voters have an unfavorable view of the gop and they don't think they represent their concerns. so if you look at sort of where women are coming from and how they perceive the gop, it doesn't seem so surprising to me they wouldn't necessarily want to run as a republican. >> it looks like project grow had a little bit of a brown thumb. it's not just because of a recruiting fail, it's also because the policies that have alienated women time and time again. women are disproportionately democratic, the democratic party

is more women, the republican party is more male. they start off with fewer women who are just available to them who are members of the party. you add to that policies that alienate women and add to those crazy comments -- i was just reading about a new one from a maine legislator today. a lot of business leaders who may lean republican saying i don't really want to be part of this. >> there was an abc fusion poll that sort of looked at -- asked the question, should we have more women elected to congress? 60% of democrats said yes. only 23% of republicans. that seems frankly, again, to suggest it's no surprise that project grow did not quite sprout, if you will. >> usually where there's a will there's a way but you have to start with a will first. i don't know that there is much will there. and part of the other problem is

most of the state legislatures endow women who have already been elected to local office tend to be more moderate. it very hard for them to get through these right-wing primaries with the growth of the tea party and they just don't want to do temperature there's no attraction for them to run because they're going to get too bloodied. >> you touched on in addition to this war on women, anti-women, measures we're seeing at the state level, the other thing we're seeing it democrats really broadening the message. when i hear people talking about pay equity in the same lines as minimum wage increase and infrastructure spending, we've come a very long way. so the idea that the message democrats are trying to use to appeal to women voters has also broadened. do we think those two factors are the key to getting women out? >> absolutely. i think that's a great point and

it's something as democrats we haven't always do that. we could be doing better, we are doing better. maybe because we have a lot of women running our party right now, i don't know. even back if 2010, a lot of women when they would talk about obamacare, it didn't talk about the benefits it would provide women. now we've learned the lessons. they don't come to the table talking about abortion. they come to the table talking about my life has a lot of struggles in it. which party is even bothering to try and understand what my life is like. for a lot of women -- >> to that point, democrats are clearly going all in with the idea that the women vote is going to make a difference. is that really the key for democrats? >> it is.

house leader nancy pelosi has been talking about that for weeks and there's one key demographic here and that's women. if you can just turn out that one demographic, democrats will win back the house. their whole goal, whole sort of driving force is to get that demographic to the polls. it's about women, it's about equal pay, it's about child care, it's about everything to get them to the polls. >> quickly as a follow-up, i one of the things, we were talking about the challenges women have getting through primaries. it's interesting we're seeing democrats -- there are five women running in the south. do we think that may be the key to turning the south blue? >> it is.

that's one of the things i'm doing this weekend is writing a profile, you have mary landry and kay haguen and then you have three challengers, and the democrats are running these challengers and they all believe that women can win in the south. this is striking because women -- no democrats have won in the south for like 30 years. and so it's like their secret weapon they believe in taking back the south. >> all right. it's up to the women yet again. thank you, jay newton-small and margie o'meara. >> was the arizona decision a tipping point in the fight for equal rights for all americans or the forces of hate and divisiveness just getting started? [ male announcer ] winter olympian ted ligety can't take a sick day tomorrow. [ coughs ]

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arizona governor jan brewer was forced to veto legislation that would use religion to codify hate and deny basic rights. major corporations like american airlines, at&t, the nfl and mlb, in addition to business leaders throughout the state urged the governor to veto the bill. while similar measures have been introduced in about a dozen other republican-controlled states like kansas, south dakota and tennessee, by the end of the week, the moral and economic arguments seem to have had an impact. now this comes as we've seen a rapidly growing acceptance of lbgt americans and issues like same-sex marriage. a federal judge ordered kentucky to immediately begin recognizing same-sex marriages from other states. so that suggests to me that the reason for the proliferation of

these hateful measures is fear. just like the anti-women's rights and anti-voting rights legislation we've seen in states, these measures represent fear of a changed reality. but the question now is whether or not the events of last week represent a final tipping point in ensuring equal rights for lbgt americans. let's bring in sister simone campbell, and rashad robinson. rashad, some people are writing in is a major tipping point. i would love to believe that but it feels like there are many. phases left to go in this fight. >> there's many more to go. but i do think it's a very important moment for the sort of fight back and push back.

this wasn't about the moveable middle or people having to change their hearts and minds. this was about a coalition of business leaders, of activists of every day people being really outraged by this law but the lack of sort of due diligence that so many of the legislators put in. some of them did not even read this two pages of legislation. >> two pages! >> you were absolutely right to bring up the anti-women's legislation and the voting rights legislation, the voter suppression legislation. as we've seen these laws being pushed, we've seen -- this type of thing that we expect our state legislators to do their due diligence, to study the laws and this type of fight back we're seeing i think is really good for people who want their legislators to do the right thing. it's about accountability. >> it strikes me the economic

argument, jan brewer mentioned that in her decision, but that that really seems to be, if this is a turning point one of the key factors in what we saw this week that we had business leaders coming out, major companies coming out and saying this would be a real problem for us if you do this. >> absolutely. the sad part is that this bill got offered as an element of faith. i think faith folks stood up and saying faith is about inclusion, not exclusion and it's that very fear that you're talking about, karen, that's so important for driving us apart and business and faith came together and said no, it about us coming to the. that's who we are as a nation. >> you know, sister, it strikes me that obviously faith has been used in the past by segregationists. we've seen faith be as a christian, as a catholic, it's a

heart break to see faith used as a vehicle for hate rather than a way to bring people together. i want to read something from 1959, the decision to enforce the ban on interracial marriage. the judge said almighty good created the races and he placed them on separate continents all but for the interference with his arrangement, there would be no cause for such marriages. my point there, sister simone, we've seen this before and we're seeing it again. >> that is true. historically people have hidden within certain narrow doctrine of the faith without looking at the fullness of any faith. as a catholic, as a christian, we all know that jesus calls us to love everyone, to include everyone. so it's a message of inclusion. but that's also true of all the faiths that i know about, people that i know who share other faiths, they tell me that it is about inclusion is the best of any faith. so when we're fearful, we'll use

anything that we have to protect ourselves. we've got to get over this fear. that's the big piece we've got to let go of. >> when you look at those of us who support lbgt rights, we look at the progress being made on marriage equality and different bans being struck down, it looks like creating this element of fear. people aren't even reading the legislation, they're creating verbiage of just clear hate. they're afraid and think they can stop it with these crazy measures. >> any time press groups begin to gain power and see themselves as more physical and more heard in our democracy. we've seen the aftermath of these last two presidential election with the rise of voter i.d. laws, as people are beginning to push back against the rising american electorate.

the thing that all of us who care about the future of this country, who care about all of us being heard and counted, and visible, regardless of of whether we're in the majority of the minority or in favor or out of favor with the power. people of good faith came to the. people of good conscience came together. they fought back and won and hopefully they'll be stronger for the fights ahead. >> sister simone, i want to talk about the idea of conscious liberty. thomas kidd, a professor of history at bay already university and author of "god of liberty and the american revolution" said some things have changed dramatically, court battles as well as decline in protestant cultural power make pastors nervous. less clout plus more aggressive policy creates a sense of crisis." how do we combat that? i think most of us think of religious liberty in a very different context than the way

it's being used and referenced in this kind of a quote. >> absolutely. and there's a case pending at the supreme court, hobby lobby, which is actually an employer's effort to claim a religious protection and a for-profit institution. i think what's at play here is an attempt to use religion to achieve what are basically political goals. in that case what they want to do is undermine the affordable care act and that it is using faith and a person's faith to undermine the fact that we all have a right to health care in our nation. what they're trying to say is an employer can control what quality of health care i get based on the employer's religious perspective. this is wrong. it's the wrong way forward because it's imposing my will or an employer's will on another. that's not us. >> rashad, one of the things that strikes me in hearing these religious faith-based -- not

really if you read the bible, these faux faith-based arguments, i think those on the right feel democrats or progressives won't be able to fight back on that. challenging another person's faith saying that's what i believe that that makes it okay regardless whaft bible a lesles the constitution, those two beautiful documents say -- i think having so many of the main line protestant churches change their stances on everything from ordinances to whether or not they would accept same-sex union, really illustrates the changing tide we're having in this country, the fact that we see efforts like moral mondays in north carolina where coalitions of lbgt folks, black folks, immigrants, standing up and fighting back against this conservative tide that is sweeping some of our states that, is reactionary and once again not reading the

legislation but reacting to the fact that the country is becoming more inclusive. for those of us standing and looking at the future and want to see a future where all of us can be heard and counted, we've got a lot to be really thankful for in this moment. and thankful for our opponent who is have been so poor and so bad in their messaging that they give us an opening to stand with us and join with us. >> and i hope we continue to lift up this conversation. thank you both. >> thank you. >> african-americans are almost 80% more likely than whites to live in nations with a high correlation of industrial revolution and poor health. we'll meet a man fighting back for his community. and we'll go back to where in 1985 a chat on internet was a crazy way to reach people. >> live chat, that's how i met

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>> the fight over the construction of the pipeline picked up a little bit momentum, potentially towards approval this week when the state department's inspector general found there was no conflict of interest violated with its choice of an outside contractor to conduct an environmental impact study that, oh, just happened to have ties to the pipeline developer. that environmental impact study issued last month found that the impact on climate change would be negligible. right. but the residents of port arthur, texas live a different reality. oil refineries process 9 million barrels a day. this has been going on for more than 60 years. and as with the majority of commercial hazardous waste sites, port arthur is

predominantly poor and african-american. like other parts of the country where residents are largely poor or lack the connections to fight back, port arthur is known as a sacrifice zone, a term used to designate areas contaminated. today where people are seeing the contamination of their land, air and water compromising their health in the name of corporate profits. bringing the keystone pipeline to town would just add to that. >> port arthur is on epa's list of sites with dangerous ozone levels and the residents suffer from asthma, respiratory illness, and cancer. the pipeline would add to those communities that are already in

distress. >> joining me now hilton kelly and dave saldana, producer of "keystone pipe lies exposed." >> thank you for having me. >> i think we could see you standing next to senator boxer on capitol hill, and you were there to talk about the health impact that the keystone pipeline would have on the people of port arthur. although it seems that this is the first time we're really having that conversation. >> yes. we're really excited about this opportunity to express exactly what's going on in our community for a number of years the citizens of port arthur have been exposed to dangerous toxins. by most of the public there, it's accepted. but now we are starting to amp it up even more. port arthur should not be deemed a dumping ground for the united states or for any other country, but yet constantly we are having

to deal with toxic waste from other areas, we're having to deal with the petroleum that's being processed. but now this tar sand material is going to add insult to injury, increase the aemission levels and we have a disproportionate number of people dealing with respiratory illness and cancer. we say enough is enough. i know you're trying to bring forward in the film the illustration of the impact it will have on real americans in communities um and down the pipeline. >> it's true, karen. >> that's right. >> sorry, that's for dave. >> it's true, karen, that not a lot of people understand that the entire route of the pipeline from the canadian border in

montana down to port arthur, texas, is basically one giant sacrifice zone, farmers, ranchers, who rely on the water in the aquifer that stand to be threatened if there's a leak. a pipeline leak anywhere along that route threatens not just the people who live there but has an octopus-like thread across the nation. not to mention the 8 million people who rely on that aquifer for their drinking water. this is a much bigger threat than just for the people of port arthur, which is a big threat already. >> in port arthur, it's predominantly african-american, the unemployment rate is 17% versus 6% in the rest of texas. the poverty rate 25.9% versus

about 14.9%. we've seen data from the texas cancer religion industry that african-americans in jefferson county as you were mentioning, 15% higher rates than the average texan in terms of respiratory illnesses and the mortality rate from cancer, more than 40%. i guess the question and part of what i want people to understand is what kind of recourse do you have living in the shadow of these corporations that are polluting the air and the water and the ground making millions and billions of dollars. what recourse do the citizens of port arthur have? >> well, the only recourse we really have is many of us can pack up and move away or we can choose to stay and fight. and because there are so many people there litsching in the shadows of these facilities that just do not have the resources to move away, we choose to stand

and fight. we have a right to breathe clean air and drink clean water. it's a god-given right. no one should have the right to infringe on your air and your water on which you sir vief. we're going to push back. we're saying no to the keefestone pipeline and we're encouraging communities to reduce their emissions. many times the folks that live in the city of port arthur do not gain employment at these facilities but at the same time we're looking at ways we can make that happen, plus reduce the air toxins in our environment. >> part of the port arthur story and part of the story of this pipeline as we're talking about sacrifice zones and environmental racism and this idea that we're talking about communities that are predominantly people are color, predominantly loaf income, predominantly people who doesn't

have the kind of -- may that be part of the reason why they say, okay, we'll just dump it in port arthur because we're talking about communities that doesn't necessarily have the kind of resources or avenues to fight back? >> yeah. we've seen that time and time again, particularly in terms of this pipeline's development. and my hat's off to mr. kelley and his friends in port arthur who have been fighting back. we've seen similar things in detroit where state representative talib led her constituents to get the pet coke piles, people are doing the same thing in lake shore and gary, indiana. over and over again you see the poor and people of color getting exploited and cheated by this

project. >> it's an important issue. i'm so glad you did this film. hilton kelley, good luck with your work. david saldana, good luck with the film. that does it for me. i'd like to welcome baby alexander, who was born this week, son of disrupt line producer lana and her wife melissa. gral congratulations. we'll see you back here tomorrow at 4:00 in the afternoon. have a great night. hey guys! sorry we're late. did you run into traffic? no, just had to stop by the house to grab a few things. you stopped by the house? uh-huh. yea. alright, whenever you get your stuff, run upstairs, get cleaned up for dinner. you leave the house in good shape? yea. yea, of course. ♪ [ sportscaster talking on tv ] last-second field go-- yea, sure ya did. [ male announcer ] introducing at&t digital life. personalized home security and automation.

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